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#1 ·
Learn from my misfortune. I wanted a Tisas 1911, I did not do research and sent $$ to them. Never got a tracking number and FFL net got the order.
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pass the word. I let the BBB know.
 
#2 ·
Learn from my misfortune. I wanted a Tisas 1911, I did not do research and sent $$ to them. Never got a tracking number and FFL net got the order. View attachment 638766

pass the word. I let the BBB know.
What did the shop tell you when you contacted them? Maybe the order never went though. They have a phone number and email on their website.
 
#4 ·
Maybe contact the Florida Attorney Generals Office?

If they have an Ombudsman, sometimes that can be effective.
 
#6 ·
OK got me 2 days ago. Same here except the shop I went to was in Penn . I'm looking for a Kimber Ultra CDP that this shop said they had in stock. HA ! Turns out the store closed last fall and some scammer assholes copied their website. Even used the owners picture. Don't do business with lloydtacticalshop.com. They got me for a couple of hundred dollars before I caught on to the scam. I used my debit card and my credit union is working on it for me. Be careful. Don't go to info@lloydtacticalshop.com
 
#8 ·
The phone number in the whois information is different then the online number. If the phone really is dead I would call the contact number of the registrar.
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#14 ·
There’s one longshot that may help you if you did not get a refund from your credit card company. Arizona has an unfair and deceptive trade practices law that is enforced by the Attorney General’s office. It allows the Attorney General to file an action against anyone doing a false advertising thing. If the owner of the website really is in Arizona and someone was kind enough to look up for you, you might make a complaint with the Arizona Attorney General.

In many of these cases if they nail someone they are required to pay “restitution“ which would be the money they stole from you.
 
#17 ·
Learn from my misfortune. I wanted a Tisas 1911, I did not do research and sent $$ to them. Never got a tracking number and FFL net got the order.

pass the word. I let the BBB know.
Guys there a zillion of these fake websites these days. Use ONLY a credit card and one that has a reputation for protecting the consumer. USAA and American Express come to mind.

Debit is NOT the same as credit card and debit should never be used on the internet.

Also, “business credit cards” offered do NOT offer many of the same protections against fraud that consumer cards do. (This the reason they market business cc to consumers.) Ive seen companies get taken for $100k and there’s no recourse since the bad guys are offshore.

Sorry to say you need to read the fine print of your CC agreement.One common requirement for credit cards is the seller must deliver the product or service or they are in breach of contract. This is how you get out of these situations.
If you did cash or cash equivalents, or money transfer like zelle or bitcoin, you’re in a very large group who just got a hard lesson. There’s so much fraud, it’s not likely anyone will be able to help you. Your money probably went overseas.
PS don’t think it’s only foreigners doing this fraud. Plenty of Americans are in on it too, they just locate their systems overseas.

the shorthand i use to determine if it’s fake is they do not accept consumer credit cards like visa, Amex. When You see them only wanting zelle, bitcoin, money orders, or other cash equivalents…. RUN!!