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Tisas Stakeout (38 Super) Range Report

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This will be brief & to the point(s)...

Magazines used:
(2) Factory Colt 38 Super
(1) Ed Brown 38 Super that came with the Stakeout

Ammo Used:
(Factory) Aguila A +P 130 gr. FMJ RN - 1.267" C.O.A.L. (50 rds.)
(Reloads)
Blue Bullets 125 gr. RN Coated w/mixed brass - 1.251" C.O.A.L. (50 rds.)
Blue Bullets 125 gr. RN Coated w/mixed Super Comp brass - 1.269" C.O.A.L. (25 rds.)
RMR 115 gr. FMJ Mini-Match Winner TCFP w/mixed brass - 1.240 C.O.A.L. (50 rds.)

The pistol performed very well & unlike me at times, it was quite accurate!
However, there was one recurring (6 or 7 times) issue with the factory Aguila 130gr FMJ rounds. Specifically, those 6 or 7 rounds chambered, though not completely - i.e., the slide stopped approximately 3/16" proud of the receiver. Moderate thumb pressure on the back of the slide & all went into battery.

Aside from the aforementioned, the Stakeout ran like a scalded dog, with zero hiccups.

As was (also) mentioned in a YouTube Stakeout review, there are those less than ideal tooling marks inside the slide, at the ejection port. That & finish marring on the slide exterior, aft of the port ... I determined that the latter marring was caused by the bore brush that Tisas crammed into the factory case lid.

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Discussion starter · #3 ·
The bearing surface on the 130 grain load looks to be out far enough that it could cause chambering problems in a short chamber. With the barrel out of the pistol, try the "plunk" test and see if the bullet may be engaging the lands before the round is fully seated.
That is indeed the problem, thank you. I grabbed a dozen or so Aguilas 130s from a new box & sure enough, every single round stopped proud of the hood.

And I have a countless number of Winchester 130 gr. bullets & I'm feeling the need to load up & plunk a few of those dummies ... ugh!
 
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How much was your stakeout??
$549 - Tisas 1911A1 Stakeout 38 Super/9mm Pistol with Two Barrels and Nickel Finish

So, since that is said, did you shoot it in 9mm?
No offense intended to anyone, but I‘m a weirdo when it comes to 1911s & as with square-faced triggers; boutique 1911s & double-stack 2011s, I have no interest in 9mm 1911s.

I'm not busting on your pistol…
Too late, I threw it onto Gun Broker mere seconds after reading your “busting“ line 😂😉.

I initially thought the same about the Aguila’s crimpless case mouth after zooming in on the photo. My Colt 38S, as with an RIA 1911, devours anything it’s fed, including those 130s (Win’ & Aguila).
 
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It might be prudent to run the Aguila ammo thru a taper crimp die, just to make sure they'll work smoothly.
Duh, I read right past your opening line yesterday ... just ran 3 Aguila 130s into a Redding crimp die & another 3 through a Lee FCD - all six with varying degrees of crimp. There was no change at all with the plunking results ... not too surprising, neither factory uncrimped or crimped Aguilas would properly seat in the EGW Chamber Checker.

I'll either heed @Plaidad's advice or just relegate the Stakeout to non-130 gr. Aguila status ... perhaps something along the lines of a 3N38-fueled, 115-125gr. mini rocket launcher
 
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