Holy cow!!! That thing definitely goes back. It'll shoot lousy, and with lead bullets, it'll lead like crazy.

 

This!

 

The original barrel had beautiful lands and gr

So what was wrong with it?

Yes, I would definitely call that a material defect to be replaced under warranty.

 

long story short: the original barrel didn’t chamber SWC, and I ended up cutting the lower 1/3 barrel to achieve 1/32” frame gap, and throating it and now it may be borderline on case support (feeds anything even empties though). I have since learned it was, perhaps, mostly the crappy out of spec stock extractor that wasn’t yet reworked (thanks Steve in Allentown) causing the feed issues.

the whole gun was used so I ordered just a new barrel after messing with original.

 

So I got a replacement barrel for my Tisas Duty Enhanced, it has chatter marks on the Lands as in pics. Would you keep, shoot, or return?

Im thinking it’s from a chip or something due to the intermittent placement and pattern vs vibrations. Yes, it’s total budget barrel. This one actually fits decently and chambers various SWC in its factory state!

I shoot only Lead thats PC’d so I’m extra concerned about leading.

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This new barrel was cleaned and has NOT been shot. The original barrel had beautiful lands and grooves alike.

That's candidate for send back.

 

I've also had issues with rough machining marks on Tisas pistols. They maybe made with forged parts but their machining can be substandard sometimes. The pics below are of my Tisas Republic of Texas pistol. It's also been my experience that their customer service sucks. Sorry to be a downer I wish you the best luck.

 

That looks a lot like the feed ramp on my Tisas Tank Commander that wouldn't feed anything but 230-grain round-nose FMJ. Way too shallow. And yes, their customer service sucks badly.

 

It looks pretty rough. I would send it back.

 

Well, The Learning experience your going through is priceless. I would send that back and order 2 the next go, if ordering from Tisas. These things are "Slapped Together" and need some attention. They are what they are for a budget pistol. I grabbed an Aviator 9mm that when received, I should have rejected. My whole experience was a learning exercise. I had an Excellent Customer Service Experience. They did what they said they would do for me. It involved a rebarrel, extractor tensioned, New front sight, and Thumb Safety replaced. All work was performed in 28 days.

I got a test target.

Added Creature Comforts.. It earned its way into my carry rotation.

 

Fast, cheap, good pick applies here for sure. Price is too good for real QC to exist I guess. Shame it’s getting so rare to find.

May I ask where those diamond grips came from?

 

You got a lemon. I ordered a new .45 US Army Model barrel for my old Tisas Regent and received a very nice one. I’ve also purchased two RIA barrels that were both very nice. Had a Winchester 94 in .45 Colt that had a bunch of machine chatter in its barrel from chamber to muzzle. Should have never been passed over by QC, but it actually shot very well! You should get better for your money though, and I’d think Tisas should make that right!

 

I had a Colt that came with a barrel similar to that (along with a couple other problems). I sent the pistol back. Colt fixed the issues and I thought their customer service was great, but it shouldn't have made it out the door with the problems it had. I had a Tisas (Inglis) Hi Power clone that had an issue. Sent it back to Tisas, they fixed it and sent it back. I thought their customer service was great and it came back fixed. The 3 other Tisas pistols I have owned are or were great.

 

I used a vendor for the barrel- CDNN, and they got me my return label promptly. If I get everything running, I’ll still be content with a QPQ/melonite slide and checkered frame 1911 for the $520 it cost. It sure has ‘battle rattle’!

I am learning more from this Tisas 1911 and its quirks and tuning needs in 3 weeks, than I learned from 15 years with striker wonder9s lol.

 

I used a vendor for the barrel- CDNN, and they got me my return label promptly.

I ordered one of the 1911 45acp Tisas barrels from CDNN back in January of this year. It is perfect and for $54 at the time I think it was a great deal. I've been a CDNN customer for many years and have always received excellent service.

 

So I got a replacement barrel for my Tisas Duty Enhanced, it has chatter marks on the Lands as in pics. Would you keep, shoot, or return?

Im thinking it’s from a chip or something due to the intermittent placement and pattern vs vibrations. Yes, it’s total budget barrel. This one actually fits decently and chambers various SWC in its factory state!

I shoot only Lead thats PC’d so I’m extra concerned about leading.

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This new barrel was cleaned and has NOT been shot. The original barrel had beautiful lands and grooves alike.

Yep, send it back if you can.

 

That thing is truly hideous. I don't even see a question there. BACK.

 

Rifling button was probably tipping and grabbing.

 

Im thinking it’s from a chip or something

No not a chip, but a terrible job of rifle drilling (aka deep hole drilling).
The process, in simple terms is to drill a blank which is much longer than one pistol barrel, more like many barrels long when done in a production environment. After that, the blank is reamed to final size, which also removes the marks from drilling. At that point, there ought to be a fairly fine surface finish on the inside. It may get lapped as the next step, or that may be omitted. Then the drilled blank is straightened, or put another way, its insides are made more true. On pistol barrel the straightening is not taken to the same degree as a rifle barrel. Then.... its rifled. In your case, it looks like button rifling. I don't think it hammer forged.
Button rifling - a carbide "iron" is forced through the barrel under high hydraulic pressure. That carbide button "irons" the imprint of the rifling into the metal. Some metal is displaced in both the inward and outward direction, forming lands and grooves.
Hammer forging - a positive image of the rifling is inserted into the drilled blank, and a hammering machine beats the living snot out of the barrel changing it from shorter and fatter, to longer and skinnier.

What you have is defective drilling that the reaming could not correct.

Its a bad barrel, send it back

Rifling button was probably tipping and grabbing.

See above, bad drilling, inconsistent with reaming to tolerance. That is the defects from drilling were made into the drilled blank with a larger diameter than the reamer. The reamer reamed, but could not remove all the drilling defects due to their deeper nature.

 

The rifling chatter wasn't the first thing I noticed. The apparent ring in the bore was.

 

I was looking at that in the grooves and stop and go nature of the spots on the lands. Apparently we have a barrel maker in the group so that’s cool.

 

If it were mine I'd have already sent it back.

 

Send it back.....

#tisasbetterthancolt

 

So I got a replacement barrel for my Tisas Duty Enhanced, it has chatter marks on the Lands as in pics. Would you keep, shoot, or return?

Im thinking it’s from a chip or something due to the intermittent placement and pattern vs vibrations. Yes, it’s total budget barrel. This one actually fits decently and chambers various SWC in its factory state!

I shoot only Lead thats PC’d so I’m extra concerned about leading.

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This new barrel was cleaned and has NOT been shot. The original barrel had beautiful lands and grooves alike.

I was barrel inspector for three gun companies. That one would have never made it past the scrap bin. The more I see and hear of Tisa's, the less chance I will ever own one.

 

Informative. I had a S&W revolver tebarrel undet warranty back in the 90’s. Had similar utton gouges in it. That’s what the service manager said. I called because it is a DX revolver and would throw out a filer in every group using lead match level ammunition. Had it back in nust under two weeks.

If your post was over in the Tisas is better than Colt thread, it would put them into convulsions.

 

I bought a new S & W model 41 about 4 or 5 yrs. ago with a barrel like that. Got it home & broke it down to clean and found the bad barrel. Sent back to S & W for a new barrel two times only to have it returned both times with notes stating that they made some bogus repairs that I had not asked for. I got hold of a manger in the repair dept. and after a long conversation providing telltale photos sent the 41 back a 3rd time, when returned this time it had a new barrel. Just have to be persistent at times to get things done.

 

Fun fact: CDNN takes a week to process and send out an exchange of accessory purchase per the warehouse manager. That’s another customer service gripe. They only open returns ‘once a week and send out exchanges the following Tuesday.’ Kinda ridiculous. Bring back QC and service but I’d start with just one even.

 

A part of the problem is American companies having to compete with foreign imports, and economies with lower labor costs. Its made everyone compete, and QC has suffered across the board. Don’t know how this can be avoided with todays global markets and manufactures, but by the same token, there are some awful good products to be had these days. I’ve pretty much grown to accept that I may have to tweak, or work on, every firearm that I’ve bought in the last 30 years—this began with Ruger firearms I purchased in the early 90’s; seems like all of them had to be worked on, and I’ve grown accustom to this!

 

America QC is being criticized in this thread. The defective part is foreign manufacture. barrel…as was the defevtive original barrel.

Oh, but it is a Tisas barrel. That’s okay.