All SA 1911s have been machined in their Illinois factory for over a decade now. Compare a field stripped SA made in the past 10 years to a Tisas, and it becomes obvious they are not the same. A super obvious difference is the relief cut in the dust cover of a Tisas frame near the front rail. This does not exist on a SA.
There have been dozens of reports on many forums about the change in the forged slides and frames at Springfield Armory. I do not know when they dropped the frames from Brazil, I thought it as late 2016. And here is what they still say about their 1911s. But they are no longer marked as being from Embrel.
It is only a few years ago and I have forgotten why they changed from the Enbrel but I think it was simple better quality at lower price. I thought there was a thread on this site and there is, here is one where it first was mentioned about the Highpower. That was the start of the discussion as I recall it because Springfield had changed from getting their forgings from Ebrel and when the moved to the Tisas for the Highpower forgings we learned that they also had contracts for the frames and slides with Tisas.
And here was the immediate reply from Tisas a rep that was on this forum at one time. Please feel free to ask him to confirm or deny. It puts him in a hard spot because, I think, Springfield Armory does not want people to know. And this Tisas rep is with the company location in the US, aka Tisas USA.
And so the controversy started. That Gun Digest article claimed the Springfield Highpower was made in the USA, but Richard Mann claimed the gun was forged by Tisas elsewhere. The controversy was whether "made in the USA" is the same as "Assembled in the USA". Here is a comment on that issue too.
All of this happened in 2022 or so. Here is a post from the Tisas rep.
And remember, Springfield Armory was in trouble as a company and had to make lots of business decisions to survive. Some may remember when they tried to ban ARs in their state. Remember this?
Why Is Everyone Boycotting Springfield Armory? (gunstoday.com) SPringfield Armory attempted to drive all small firearms dealers in Illinois out of business at one time, a boycott changed their mind when their anti-second amendment secret deal came to light.
"In 2017, the company faced controversy during consideration in the
Illinois state legislature of a
bill (SB-1657) that would restrict firearms transfers within the state. An organization that Springfield Armory and
Rock River Arms—both based in Illinois—provided funding to, the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), initially opposed the bill.
[27] Following efforts by IFMA's
lobbyist, the bill was amended to exempt Illinois-based manufacturers, apparently in exchange for IFMA dropping its opposition to the bill.
[27] This action created "tremendous customer backlash" as the deal was made "at the expense of everyday gun owners".
[28] This was followed by the IFMA being dissolved and the companies subsequently opposing SB-1657, which was eventually
vetoed.
[28]
Springfield Armory quickly reacted once the actions of the IFMA were revealed to the company, with the company releasing the following statement from Reese: "I can tell you now, we at Springfield Armory are unequivocally 100 percent against this bill and will continue to work with the NRA and others to ensure that it is defeated. Springfield Armory ... was not aware of the actions taken by trade association, IFMA, until after the fact."
[29]"
Springfield Armory, Inc. - Wikipedia
Of course
Springfield Armory is just a name that is not affiliated in anyway with the real Springfield Armory that was a historic government arms company. Most of their products are clones, the 1911, the M1a, the Beretta M9, the Browning Highpower clone and others.
And remember who they are in recent year. Much of their product line is just imported and fully made in other countries, and just branded as Springfield Armory.
T"""he
Springfield Armory XD is a series of
semi-automatic pistols sold by
Springfield Armory, Inc., in the United States along with follow-on variants:
XD-M,
XD-S, and
XD-E.
[1] Polymer-framed and predominantly
striker-fired, the series is manufactured by
HS Produkt in
Karlovac, Croatia.""" "
Springfield Armory XD - Wikipedia
The Hellcat is one of their better selling imports.
"""""The
Springfield Armory Hellcat is a
polymer frame
striker-fired micro-compact
semi-automatic pistol sold in the United States by
Springfield Armory, Inc., and manufactured in
Croatia by
HS Produkt.
[7]""""
Springfield Armory Hellcat - Wikipedia
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Springfield Armory makes it's money from guns it imports from a socialist country. A country that does not respect the private right of gun ownership.
Some people would not buy a gun from a company who sources it's primary products from socialist or communist countries. Some people do not care. It is all a matter or personal preference. We spend our dollars to support companies whose values we approve of, or some of us do not care, we just want the product regardless of who makes it. Personally in a global market, buying from a company like Springfield Amory does not matter much, except, each dollar spent encourages them to do more business with those countries.
The bottom line as to the subject of whether Tisas supplies all the frames and slides for Springfield Amory 1911s, is that we asked the Tisas rep to confirm or deny. The only answer he would give is that Tisas had lots of contracts for those parts with many companies but he could not or would not disclose the fact that Springfield Army 1911 slides and frames were made by Tisas. It put him in a hard spot and he left the forum.
The answer was clear, and since Springfield Armory will not answer that question, somebody asked them direct. On another forum. All they would say is the get their forged frames and slides from a US company. And we know that US company to be, Tisas USA. And we know Tisas USA does not have a forge, so they are made by Tisas, shipped to the Tisas USA facility and them supplied to Springfield Armory.
And unless they have found a cheaper supplier that is where they still get them today. They take those frames and slide polish them and put any finishing touches or changes they want on them. And everybody is happy with that arrangment.
